Between Order and Chaos
I am joined with my friend, Joe Jackowski, and this conversation took place after about four hours of conversation, unpacking everything that has happened in the wake of George Floyd's murder.
This conversation was sense-making for myself and Joe. We do our best to try and lay out the land of the current situation, which in turn looking at the extremes of this situation and asking What if and how bad could this get?
I do believe that the broader philosophical discussions about the direction of this country are speaking between order and chaos.
This was our honest attempt at the layout of the reactions on both sides.
This is all about providing a more nuanced viewpoint. I want to see this country go in a better direction. Some things need to change, and they will change. The big question is, how do we go about changing those things?
How we figure this thing out is through discourse with each other.
There will be one other conversation where myself, Joe, and Jordan, will have our first conversation together. And that one I think is even better than this one. So stay tuned for that one. It will be the next episode to be released. But until then, please enjoy this conversation with Joe Jackowski.
Show Notes:
[00:04:34] Emotion is a compass
[00:07:14] Dismissal of Habeas Corpus
[00:12:33] Orderly Aspect
openness to experience (inventive/curious vs. consistent/cautious)
conscientiousness (efficient/organized vs. extravagant/careless)
extraversion (outgoing/energetic vs. solitary/reserved)
agreeableness (friendly/compassionate vs. challenging/callous)
neuroticism (sensitive/nervous vs. resilient/confident)
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[00:14:50] Territory Mapping
[00:17:19] Risk of too much information
[00:19:46] Finding the middle ground
[00:21:35] Orderliness
[00:22:34] Ghost in the Shell
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[00:25:13] Overspecialization
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[00:27:36] The Funnel of Information
[00:29:31] Hitler and Orderliness taken too Far
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[00:32:09]Tying back into Habeas Corpus
[00:33:27] Iceland's reaction to COVID-19
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[00:35:59] The left side is a bit tricky
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