In this episode, we are joined by Kirsten Holmes. As Vice President of Performance Science at WHOOP, Kristen drives thought leadership by engaging with industry-leading researchers and partners to understand better individual and team biometric and performance data across high-stakes verticals. Kristen also works with hundreds of the best tactical, professional, and surgical teams and NCAA Athletes/Teams worldwide, helping them interpret WHOOP data to optimize training, recovery, and sleep behavior.

A conversation about the ESPN documentary series The Last Dance: from there, we transition to a broader discussion about basketball and the legacy of Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan shaped the modern perception of basketball players. We talk about how sports can change the world. Sport provides a blueprint for pushing yourself to do the impossible.

This conversation starts with a discussion opening of American football season.  From sports, we enter into a conversation around music, touching on the artists we enjoy or who have impacted us.

We close with a discussion about storytelling. We mostly centered around impactful films like The Matrix, Harry Potter, and Star Wars. We talk about what makes characters compelling. Why do we enjoy characters with nuance and flaws more than black and white? 

In this episode, Erich Wenzel and Jordan Criss are joined by Jorge Martinez. We open the podcast with a new form of discussion that we haven't touched on much Sports and, for this episode, Basketball. While Erich is not a nuanced fan of sports in general, he has a deep interest in what it takes to become a top athlete, which drives this conversation for him. Jordan and Jorge provided detailed information to paint the picture. Naturally, the conversation turns to trying to compare Michael Jordan and Lebron James. Finally, we think about what’s coming down the lane for Basketball.