Jordan Criss and Joe Jackowski on Sustaining Creativity
On this episode, we are joined by my friends, Joe Jackowski and Jordan Criss, and in this particular episode, I wanted to talk to them about the act of being creative. Most specifically, one of the aspects I haven't covered because I let it go. But the fact that I didn't post anything on the podcasting front for almost a month. So partly, that is a lack of motivation on my part. And it's also, to be completely honest, not being completely prepared. But, it's not an excuse by any means because if you care about something, you take the time to do it, and you put in the effort to continue to do it.
But in any case, these things will ebb and flow with time. I completely understand that. But I did want to have a conversation with my two friends, who in many ways share the same creative leanings and yearnings as I do.
We had a great conversation about how individuals create, why they make it, and how embedding creativity into something bigger than yourself is seemingly a better way to be sustained or fueled by the things you're driven to put into the world. It's not a specific format by any means for me. It happens to be podcasts.
I wanted to talk about, the spark or the fire seems to dwindle a little bit. And so with that, everyone, please enjoy this conversation with Joe Jackowski and Jordan Criss.
Show Notes:
(00:00) Selfish Dedication
(01:13) Intro
(04:43) Riding the Waves of Creativity
(05:45) Pushing through after boredom
(08:49) Solitude
(10:36) Attention Interruption and Texts
(13:47) Resistance
(16:58) Channeling the Muse
(18:50) Not Using External Substances to Quiet the Ego
(23:41) Social Environments and Alcohol
(26:11) In search of an ideal non-dependence
(30:18) Rationalizing away what you want to do
(35: 27) Don't Abdicate Responsibility
(37:21) Being Creative for a Gain in Status
(42:57) Putting Status Gain to High
(45:23) Too much instant gratification
(48:04) Creating something to remember in 1000 years
(53:47) Mandelbrot set
(56:51) Story of the Quarrymen
My favorite poetry book from David
