Today on the podcast. I am joined by returning guests and good friend Joe Jackowski. We recorded this one in Michigan at the beginning of June, and really it was our way of catching up with each other. Since we hadn't spoken in a little while, basically, he was last on the podcast.

We reminisce about old times. Some of that is Joe's experience with the military, starting with things around pests and how we view insects of the world. From there, we get into the more usual topics that we typically explore around psychology.

More recently, we discuss some topics around the response to the pandemic, which we bring podcasts that left a mark on how we have been thinking. The first podcast is with Sarah Hallberg on Peter Attia’s podcast. The second podcast was Yeonmi Park on Jordan Peterson’s podcast. Both of these podcasts are well worth your time listening to.

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