In this conversation, we get pretty granular and talk about how he looks at his writing process, and why he is choosing to do screenwriting, As such a niche field, screenwriting can feel like a lost cause or something that is a pipe dream, for lack of a better term. And I even asked him what he would say to someone who says, why are you doing this? Screenwriting seems like a waste of time.

And beyond that, we have a great discussion around the film as an industry and loving critiques of it. What shows are good or great? What makes compelling stories?

We get into what is a fulfilling life, like what drives someone to do something and fully immerse yourself in it. For Jordan, it's not leaving anything on the table.