Joe Jackowski on Religion, Symbolism, and The Wellspring of Wisdom
Today on the podcast, I'm joined by my friend, Joe Jackowski. Joe now holds a bachelor's from the University of Michigan in biopsychology cognition and neuroscience.
As he finished up his degree, he took it upon himself to continue exploring where his interests have taken him in psychology specifically. He's been exploring two very influential psychologists and psychotherapists, Erich Neumann and Camille Paglia.
So in this conversation, he lays out some of the ideas that he's been exploring for himself while using these greats before him to provide a foundation. In some sense, that's what we do in this conversation because we don't spend enough time looking back at humanity's past at the ways of being that we all can share or learn from at a symbolic level.
Joe believes that we should be paying deeper attention to the religions of the world and the other stories that are even older than the current modern religions, the Greeks and the Romans and the Egyptians and so forth. There's so much to talk about, so for fear of using up too much time in this intro, I love this conversation for all that it's worth. We get into religion, we get into art, and we get into Parenthood.
At the end of the day, life is meant to be a journey. Now here in the modern world, we get to share our journeys with so many more people than we would have otherwise. I really hope you take one gem from this conversation and run with it. So with that, please enjoy this conversation with Joe Jackowski.
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Show Notes
[00:04:50] Volatility of the weather
[00:05:41] Middle-Class Fancy
[00:06:54] Joe's High School Trip to Colorado
[00:09:07] Reading Rule
The Origins and History of Consciousness by Erich Neumann
Sexual Personae: Art and Decadence from Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson by Camille Paglia
[00:10:14] A different way to teach religion
[00:12:52] How we reacted to Christianity or Catholicism
Catholicism vs Christianity - Difference and Comparison
[00:14:26] Connecting back to the history of the Religion
[00:15:18] Familia Sagrada
Sagrada Família
Photos from Unsplash
[00:18:05] Is an artwork just the medium used to create it?
[00:20:36] Joe's visit to Mount Kōya
[00:22:22] A different way of looking at religions
[00:25:32] St. Francis
St. Francis of Assisi by G.K Chesterton
[00:29:57] Franciscan Monk
[00:31:56] Monastic Brewing
[00:34:21] Vinland Saga (Anime)
[00:36:09] Kobyz - One of the oldest musical instruments
[00:38:15] Why do we have symbols?
Berserker and What Do We Really Know About Viking Berserkers?
[00:40:48] Re-experiencing the oldest stories
[00:42:07] Story of Orestes
[00:46:47] The Ideal Good
[00:48:38] What does someone look like pursuing the highest value?
Isis - Explore Deities of Ancient Egypt
[00:54:39] Image of the Madonna and Child
Madonna and Child (Duccio, Metropolitan)
[00:56:28] Sacred Duty of Parenthood
[00:59:45] Wellspring of Wisdom
[01:02:46] You are the legacy of billions of generations of life
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Today on the podcast, we are joined by Joe Jackowski. Joe is a Marine Corps veteran and current graduate student at Vanderbilt University in the Cognitive Psychology in Context program. His primary interest is meaning in life, which broadly extends to problems in ethics, A.I., and culture.
In this episode, we sit down to discuss his first long-form article on his new sub stack, Apotheosis: A Philosophy for Influencers