Joe Jackowski on Religion, Symbolism, and The Wellspring of Wisdom

Today on the podcast, I'm joined by my friend, Joe Jackowski. Joe now holds a bachelor's from the University of Michigan in biopsychology cognition and neuroscience.

As he finished up his degree, he took it upon himself to continue exploring where his interests have taken him in psychology specifically. He's been exploring two very influential psychologists and psychotherapists, Erich Neumann and Camille Paglia.

So in this conversation, he lays out some of the ideas that he's been exploring for himself while using these greats before him to provide a foundation. In some sense, that's what we do in this conversation because we don't spend enough time looking back at humanity's past at the ways of being that we all can share or learn from at a symbolic level.

Joe believes that we should be paying deeper attention to the religions of the world and the other stories that are even older than the current modern religions, the Greeks and the Romans and the Egyptians and so forth. There's so much to talk about, so for fear of using up too much time in this intro, I love this conversation for all that it's worth. We get into religion, we get into art, and we get into Parenthood.

At the end of the day, life is meant to be a journey. Now here in the modern world, we get to share our journeys with so many more people than we would have otherwise. I really hope you take one gem from this conversation and run with it. So with that, please enjoy this conversation with Joe Jackowski.


Show Notes

[00:04:50] Volatility of the weather 

[00:05:41] Middle-Class Fancy

[00:06:54] Joe's High School Trip to Colorado

[00:09:07] Reading Rule

The Origins and History of Consciousness by Erich Neumann

Sexual Personae: Art and Decadence from Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson by Camille Paglia

Jordan Peterson

[00:10:14] A different way to teach religion

[00:12:52] How we reacted to Christianity or Catholicism

Catholicism vs Christianity - Difference and Comparison

[00:14:26] Connecting back to the history of the Religion 

[00:15:18] Familia Sagrada

Sagrada Família
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[00:18:05] Is an artwork just the medium used to create it? 

[00:20:36] Joe's visit to Mount Kōya

Mount Kōya

[00:22:22] A different way of looking at religions

[00:25:32] St. Francis

Francis of Assisi

St. Francis of Assisi by G.K Chesterton

[00:29:57] Franciscan Monk

Franciscans

[00:31:56] Monastic Brewing 

How monks perfected beer. And found salvation in the blessings of… | by Steve Moretti | A Brief History of Things

Weihenstephan Abbey

Trappist beer

[00:34:21] Vinland Saga (Anime)

Vinland Saga

[00:36:09] Kobyz - One of the oldest musical instruments

Kobyz

Iain McGilchrist

Kazakhstan

[00:38:15] Why do we have symbols?

Zeus and Thor

Odysseus

Berserker and What Do We Really Know About Viking Berserkers?

[00:40:48] Re-experiencing the oldest stories

Beowulf

[00:42:07] Story of Orestes

Orestes

Chthonic

Erinyes

[00:46:47] The Ideal Good

Ideal (ethics)

[00:48:38] What does someone look like pursuing the highest value?

Jesus

Julius Caesar and Cleopatra

Isis - Explore Deities of Ancient Egypt

Temple of Venus and Roma

Romulus and Remus

Osiris

Osiris myth

[00:54:39] Image of the Madonna and Child

Madonna and Child (Duccio, Metropolitan)

[00:56:28] Sacred Duty of Parenthood

[00:59:45] Wellspring of Wisdom

[01:02:46] You are the legacy of billions of generations of life

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